Marine veteran Jameson on his YouTube channel analyzed a podcast where a female former Marine was talking about her experiences as one of the first in the Infantry. Watch the video but also see some of the comments below from viewers about women in the Marines. Since men who think they are women now have no place in women’s spaces like women’s sports, maybe it’s common sense not to have women in male spaces–the Infantry.
What People Are Saying
“She said, “Your not going to change the Marine Corps.” You do not enlist in the Marine Corps to change it, you enlist so it can change you.”
“Yes they tell all Male Marines to stay away from Female Marines regardless of MOS to avoid sexual misconduct. The USMC has been doing this for decades.”
“I had to counsel and reprimand Marines to NJP because they were having affairs on duty. Noone wanted that. Her NCOs didn’t want to be in the news.”
“I wasn’t a Marine, but we were told the same thing in training. It didn’t stop them from having relationships, resulting in the loss of a few soldiers.”
“As soon as she dates one of the guys, there are instantly going to be problems. Jealousy, etc.”
“As a 22-year Army vet, I saw countless female soldiers with hip fractures. There is something going on physiologically here that needs to be addressed.”
“The infantry isn’t a social experiment.”
“That “toxic culture” managed to defeat the Japanese on Iwo Jima. I’ll take that culture.”
“120mm mortar afghan 02-03. No way we would’ve lived had a woman been with us. We struggled with the weaker men. No thank you.”
“Military is there to defend the country not to take care of you.”
“Had many women be burdens to my unit in the Army pure facts.”
“I served with her. (Kinda, same MOS, same unit, different company, however all the mortarman got combined into 1 platoon) I heard a lot of rumors, but I honwstly didnt see that out of her. She was a pretty cool person. In terms of ability as a mortarman not including physical, she seemed average. Now, I dont like to spread hate, but seeing as this is a marine channel, you all will likley understand what im talking about. Her whole platoon was kindof below average in terms of the mortarman mos. So any flaws you may have heard about her in terms of mortarman as a job, the rest of her platoon had the same issues. A lot of dudes definitely wanted “different intention” with her for lack of a better phrase. Now as for women in general, during my time in the infantry I worked with 8 females, her being one of them. Almost every single one of them were horrible beyond compare. They couldnt carry their own weight. They were too emotional. They left with very bad permanent injuries. Murphy was 1 of the 2 female infantryman ive ever met that was actually atleast average. However, again, from what I know about her, had she been in a better platoon, I think it woildve turned out a bit better for her. Her platoon was lackluster.”
“16 year army vet here. I’ve been in a long time and I’m still going. I say that first just to show I am talking from experience. But I’ll keep it short. I do not and I repeat. Do not look down on women in anyway. However. Anyone who states that females are equal to men in the military are liars. As it’s been stated before a million times, men are biologically and physically different. There are things women are excellent at but the military tends to be extremely physically demanding and taxing. So women naturally tend to fall short in those categories. This just is what it is. There are the rare exceptions. But even those are exactly excelling. They’re average and or meeting the standard. Again. No issue with women but facts are facts. They get special treatment. Because of various reasons usually its just natural for men to want to help women more than other men. And that’s a light way to explain the dynamic. It goes deeper. But yes they get special treatment and no they don’t typically meet the standard and almost never excel at basic soldier tasks. Those are hard facts. There are some areas women can shine however such as logistics and Mos specific tasks. Again. Im just not sugar coating this. It is what it is and in my mind there’s no shame in it its just the truth.”
“10000000% agree. Again, even when I mentioned Murphy (the one in this video) as being average that was entirely from an MOS proficiency standpoint disregarding the physical part. After working with women in tthe infantry they truly are just not built for it. Unfortunately we will be looked down on for saying that but I dont care. Id actually only met 1 woman who could even carry her own pack and she was an officer so she didnt really have to go through the grit that her men had to. No shade on her, she even said it was first hand experience as to why they dont belong. But honestly, and Im so glad you mentioned it, the biggest problem isnt even the physicality. Women change the dynamic of how they intereract and operate. I saw it first hand, the men have to walk on eggshells, etc, I could go on. But for this video, I jad to plint out that her experience had a lot to do with being in a sub par platoon. Which to that platoons defense, mortars are a really tough MOS to keep highly skilled as most of them do not re enlist so its always very junior.”
“Both of my boys are in the Air Force and last year, one of my son’s Sergeant came into a room where the guys were just doing whatever. The Sergeant said he needed to talk to them. They thought they were in some kind of trouble initially but the Sergeant basically said, “Guys I have to ask you this, it’s not me but it’s coming from above. There is a gay pride fest on base next week do any of you want to attend?” my son basically told me that after they were asked that question they all looked at each other confused. But then they all said no. So the Sergeant said something like, “I figured you didn’t but I have to ask everybody.” Anyway this crap needs to stop. Our military is becoming a testing ground for social movements. Unreal.”
“I don’t think she was treated badly. Rather, she was treated like an infantry soldier.”
“I stand with the vast majority of people throughout 6000 years of human history who know that women in combat is a horribly bad and immoral idea.”
“When I went through the US Army Drill Sergeant Academy, we had one female soldier in our cycle. She was determined to make it all the way. The standards were for the most part the same for her as they were for us. Only difference was the PT test. She did excellent in every aspect all the way through till the end and the ruck march. It finished her. Not because she quit. Her hips fractured. We could see her pain. Our respect for her drove us to grab her ruck, (me), and double ruck the march, (I was a former Paratrooper). She did not fail for lack of determination, drive or ability. Her physique was not designed to take the punishment. Yes, there are other female Drill Sergeants on duty. This was one example of my personal experience in the world of the drastic difference in the roles that men and woman were made to play in the world. I was in various infantry and combat engineer combat units and all of them were all male. They worked because of that standard. The dropout rate in our cycle was exceedingly high due to the rigorous standards we had to meet. Good thing. War does not care about your feelings or shortcomings. It kills everything it can.”
“Whether she did or didn’t she’s still an unnecessary distraction. As Jameson said, she’s in a group of young, fit, gung-ho, men, that are in their prime, let’s say, gaming season. She’s going to get attention, especially when she’s out there in gym shorts, and the marine green tee shirt, doing PT with certain things giggling, shaking and bouncing, if you know what I mean. To deny she’s a distraction is to deny men’s, especially young men, primal instincts since the beginning of time. So of course the Commander has no choice but to shut it down directly and immediately by telling the men don’t even get started with her. Also, many young men are still in their awkward stage of interacting with women, as they simply haven’t had the experience to know how to properly speak and act around an attractive female. So some, may be trying to be nice to her but come off as a creep. Because many of theses young men are still battling their brains versus their hormones.”
“I’m sorry, but “Prepare for war by avoiding toxicity” sounds like an awful strategy.”
“USMC 1984-1993 Gulf War 1, we deployed day 3 after Saddam invaded Kuwait. It was a hot filthy stinking environment. We went the first 5 days without a shower. Where we were located, there was a single building with a water spigot. Once everyone found out about it, everyone at the end of the day would line up in just a towel to bathe. At the water spigot, there would be 3 marines naked in the raw filling up cups, washing and rinsing, with a line of marines yelling to hurry up. It is impossible for a woman to function in that environment. That is just one story. The Marine Corp is designed to kill and break things. You can not change that and it should not be changed.”
“I’m a retired doctor of chiropractic. I practiced for 30 years. When women began moving into more physical jobs, injury rate claims with Workmen’s Comp/Labor and Industries insurance shot up. It’s never been discussed on any level, but imagine the costs and permanent disability checks, etc.”
“Every woman I have encountered in the infantry field in the combat zone demolished the functionally of the chain of command. Marriages were ruined, senior enlisted were relieved of duty, commands became a laughing stock.”
“Everyone who’s done their 20 has seen the military become a kinder, gentler and above all SOFTER military and this woman is the result of that. She is a shining example of what it’s become.”
“I had close friends that were SOI instructors when this lady went through and she needs to know how many upper rank officers absolutely pushed her through no matter what she failed.”
“And this is why I’m never joining the military again.”
“What she never will understand. the male bonding ritual is different. guys want to know that. you will not give up when things goes rough. but you get a deeper friendship. one problem is that spending alone time with her is a NJP risk. one misunderstanding and they guy is in trouble.”
“Imagine the Marines from Guadalcanal Iwo and Chosin hearing this woman from 2024 talk about her disappointment in shaping the Marine Corps to her image.”
“Exact thing happened in the Fire department. They hired dainty girls wanting to play fireman and they always left us one man short when it was Go Time. Even hanging out at the station, the entire firehouse culture changed because we were terrified we’d be falsely accused of something. Feminism has destroyed jobs meant for men.”
“I served a total of 5.5 years in the U.S. Army, including time on active duty and in the National Guard. During my service, I witnessed a noticeable decline in morale within my infantry battalion when female soldiers began integrating into our ranks in larger numbers. SHARP cases increased significantly, and while many of those allegations were later found to be unsubstantiated, the accused male soldiers still faced serious consequences—ranging from Article 15s to dishonorable discharges. I personally observed two separate instances where female soldiers fabricated allegations against their NCOs in order to be reassigned to different units due to dissatisfaction with their current teams or environments. In both cases, the reassignment was granted. I also sat through multiple SHARP briefings where senior leadership harshly criticized the male soldiers as a collective, blaming us for the rising number of incidents and warning us to either “do better or get out of their Army.” This blanket approach was demoralizing, especially given that the vast majority of male soldiers I served with would never engage in inappropriate conduct. Additionally, I witnessed a clear double standard in how leadership communicated with male versus female soldiers. While it was common for NCOs and officers to speak harshly or sternly to male enlisted personnel—a dynamic we expected as part of military life—female soldiers were often addressed in a gentler tone and treated with noticeably more patience and leniency. Many male soldiers found it frustrating to see female peers avoid consequences for the same minor infractions that resulted in punishment for male soldiers.”
“I was at USMC Security Forces school in Chesapeake VA in 1994 when the first 3 females ever were introduced to the program. AND THEN one of them were put in my section about 10 minutes after I got promoted to Corporal at 8th and I. I can say with confidence that this experiment has been failing miserably for 30 years at this point. Time to stop it. It’s terrible for morale, it’s terrible for effectiveness, it’s ALWAYS sub-optimal.”
“How did she ever get into our military!! Has no one ever sat this woman down and explained what our military is!! Our military isn’t about individualism, but it’s about being a team!! A very unique team!! How could she talk in such a way?? I am so glad that we have the administration we have now, and we can change all this nonsense!! Allowing a woman to become a so called Ranger was a slap in the face to myself!! There is no way that woman would ever passed Ranger training many of us went through!! I am glad we’ve gone back to the warrior mentality!!!”
“All the “Girl-Boss” fighters in movies and video games has convinced too many people that women in combat roles is not only possible but necessary. Bad idea.”
“Remember, the Corps did not ask for this, congress forced this on all of the services.”
“If the Marines still have a “toxic” culture then I think this country is going to be the most safe and well defended one on the face of the earth.”
“Retired Marine here, MOS 0311, Iraq combat veteran. I feel profound sadness and shame listening to this woman. She clearly didn’t understand the Corps Doctrine. Someone should have explained to this woman that serving in any military organization in the world, especially the USMC, is all about military discipline, acquiring mental toughness and endurance, courage, and honor. No man joins the USMC expecting to be treated like a snowflake. Shame on you, Female Infantry Marine. Fortunately, the USMC prevails and will prevail, even in spite of this woman.”
“The Marine Corps doesn’t care about “you,” Marines care for the Marine Corps. The first thing you learn is to shed your individuality. There us no “you,” there is no “me.” Unit, Corps, God, Country: in that order.”
“The ultimate in invading a mans space. Now how many times did she carry the base plate and 6 rounds in addition to the basic combat load?”
“I served in the Navy from 93-97. If I recall around 1995 or 1996 when, I believe it was the U.S.S. Eisenhower, put 500 women on board for a 6 month deployment. Around 200 of them came back pregnant. It was all downhill from there.”
“My MOS (5811 Military Police) had quite a few WM’s integrated and there really weren’t all that many issues. In an infantry field, though, I can see how the WM’s can be an issue. They simply don’t belong in combat MOS.”
“She was in my company. I remember her arriving. No one was “against her” but it was strange having a female to work around. Everyone would have to change into a different uniform, she would have to leave. NCO’s would sort of fight to protect her, others didn’t want anything to do with her. It’s created drama in the company(which wasn’t her fault) but I definitely found females didn’t belong in the infantry because of how quickly it changed the whole company dynamic. I wasn’t even in her platoon and it affected us.”
“Toxic culture? They are preparing you for combat, ma’am.”
“The marines aren’t in a toxic culture. The marines are in an effective culture. I want my marines to have the ability to defend our country, not knit a sweater and express their feelings.”
“Marine NCO here. She was flat out a distraction. Focus and concentration are essential in the theater of operations. Those distractions get people killed. I’m sorry her perspective is her own. I respect that. NCO’s are tasked with keeping young men alive in potentially dangerous situations. It’s not personal. It’s business. Semper Fi”
“As a NZ Army soldier, every time we had a Battle Fitness Test, the women failed us and took days to recover after.”
“I’m from Eastern Europe, and we pretty much have the same problems, they want to be in the military, but they benefit from different physical test markings, reduced working hours, preferential duty posting. Also they don’t miss a day posting on social media in uniform with badass quotes.”
“Aus Navy here. It’s so frustrating when they do this to us. They make a hard job impossible and make it so dangerous.”
“I was in the Royal Marines we were embarked forces on a ship just after they allowed females on board ship. We were warned by the Navy lads to give them a wide berth. We had a policy we never spoke to them due to the added issues. They could fall asleep on watch and get away with anything. Wasn’t wort the hassle.”
“I was a squad leader and got the 2nd female in our entire battalion in my squad. Downright awful, not cut out, you can definitely tell she was trying to make a statement by joining the infantry, but couldn’t for a single moment do anything at the lowest standard. The second female that went to a different platoon had a nervous breakdown within a month and ended up going to EBH every other week, it came to the point where she would show up for first formation and then be sent to her room where she would walk around the battalion AO in civilian clothing for the remainder of the day. The third you guessed it within 6 months was pregnant by our company 1sg.”
“4:27 – Yes, exactly. Your Master Sergeant told the rest lf your company not to “look at her” or “speak to her” because they were trying to keep the rest of their marines safe from HER, while potentially keeping her safe from them. All it takes is one incident where she gets upset and wants to get back at one of her male comrades for whatever reason, so she claims she was assaulted and it turns into a big scandal, and her superiors are the ones who will be put under a microscope and held accountable. They did what they did because there was seemingly a precedent established where she was screwing around with one of her fellow marines. All things considered, I don’t really blame them for reacting the way they did.”
“I remember the unit i was with, we had three women. They were all older and didn’t really associate with us. We could pretty much do and say as we pleased. Not long after i enlisted we had an influx of young girls, (17, 18, 19) and we were given a bunch of rules. We felt like we were walking on egg shells, they complained about everything, and then there was a lot of moral problems as relationships started and failed. It went from a great working environment to couldn’t get out of there fast enough in less than a year.”
“My nephew was a Marine when they first started allowing women in rifle companies and what not. His platoon (he was the sgt), got the first female in the company while stationed in Japan. He said, “she was almost always broken and falling out on runs, so she ended up doing all the companies paper work.” I asked and he explained that “broke” means injured. This was normal PT for the unit’ they did nothing extreme while there. Women weren’t built for the grind.”
“On 18 JUN 1991, 27th Commandant of the Marine Corps General Robert Barrow testifies in front of congress, explaining how women in combat would destroy the Marine Corps. “Something no enemy has been able to do in over 200 years” – Gen. Barrow”
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